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Silverman articulating the foot of an already thrown piece. His love for the wheel only goes so far: “In L.A., you have people who will come in and say, ‘Can you make me something like that but five times the size?’" he says. "And you say, ‘Only if you give me a ridiculous amount of money.’ And then they say okay, and you have to make it! This summer we did three or four really huge planters, which took a ton of work. You have such a high failure rate; when things get that big, they warp and crack. You have to throw it in sections, and take the kiln apart. One of them blew up in the kiln.”